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Dec 5, 2013 3:00pm PST
with me is ron allen and joining us is jonathan alter, author and msnbc contributor, and james peterson, professor at lehigh university. jonathan, let me go to you first. you've covered president obama extensively. what kind of mandela influence do you see in him? >> huge influence. as he president said in his statement. he said he would not be who he was without nelson mandela. he followed him from an early age. you may recall when the president was a student at occidental college in california, he took part in anti-apartheid demonstrations. he was a leader on that issue and focused on it. but one of the things that is really striking me tonight is what can americans learn. and american society learn from the example of nelson mandela? i think back to civil rights movement, ghandi with his principle of civil disobedience, that helped to give the movement life. so what is mandela's message? well, today we're hearing even very conservative senators and other figures talking about the spirit of forgiveness that he embody embodied in south africa. my question tonight, rev, is can we import
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